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54 Charlton Green

Red Lion circa 1987

Red Lion circa 1987 (Photo by Paul Skelton)

Red Lion circa 1980

Red Lion above and below circa 1980 photo by Barry Smith.

Red Lion circa 1980

 

I could only find Tom Jenkins to connect with the original in 1826. At an auction held in May 1859, the old established, freehold pub, recently rebuilt and together with its tea gardens, outbuildings and large stable, was on offer.

Few licensees hurried from here which probably says a lot. It did have permission to close in world war two but did so for a few months only in 1941.

A Whitbread outlet.

This was the very first pub in the area to build an outdoor skittle alley. This was the brain-child of Leonard Latcham in the mid 1950's and he gained the idea after going on holiday and playing on an indoor alley (not sure where, West Country perhaps). Only trouble was, the pub didn't have enough room for an indoor alley, so he built one outside. The difference being that this alley was cambered, so as to let the water drain off in wet weather. The craze caught on many other pubs followed suit, and is still played to this day. There is still a Latchem Trophy up for grabs for those who still play the traditionally local game.

 

From the Dover Telegraph, 14 December 1833.

VALUABLE INVESTMENT

FREEHOLD AND LEASEHOLD ESTATE

IN DOVOR AND CHARLTON

TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION

At the Red Lion, in Charlton, on Friday 27th December, 1833, at Six o'clock in the evening.

BY MR GEORGE HARRISSON.

By order of the Trustees of Mr Richard Sandford, in Two Lots.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 6 June, 1952.

With his usual energy Mr. Durrant sends up the first wood.

 

BEER & SKITTLES

Another Charlton Green Enterprise

Expected to be particularly popular with West Country People, a skittle alley was opened on Whit-Monday by the towns uncrowned Soccer King, Fred Durrant, in the grounds of the "Red Lion", Charlton Green.

Hoping to popularise the game in this area is the licensee, Mr. L. R. Latcham who came froth Somerset some years ago. Before the war there were three rinks for bowls behind the house, and and since they were destroyed during the war the regulars have been pleading for the return of the game.

Realising that the cost of laying the green was prohibitive, Mr. Latcham nostalgically remembered the skittle alleys back home, and had one built where the old rinks were.

Introducing Mr. Fred Durrant, Dover F.C's. popular player-Manager, Mr. Latcham recalled that the town had just seen a particularly good year for sports, and said he could think of no one who was better qualified to have a hand in the opening of the town's latest sporting venture.

Before cutting the tape stretched across the entry of the bowling alley, Mr. Durrant thanked the crowd of spectators, who he said were typical of those thousands of local people who, week after week gave their support to the Town football club.

An impromptu challenge match with Mr. H. A. Carr, Chairman of Dover F.C. Supporters' Association, Fred lost by 8 shots to 6.

The first game after the official opening was between four Somerset men, now living at Elvington, and four local men--and much to the fifty odd onlookers' surprise, it was the Dover men that won 71 to 54.

With the claim that it is the only alley this side of London, Mr. Latcham says that he will keep it for the locals three nights a week, while on the other nights he hopes to allow other clubs that might start up to play there.

 

From the Dover Express 24 January 1992.

Alf Bentley 1992

Publican Alf Bentley: "Leases are as ill-conceived as the poll tax."

Publicans are prepared to lose their jobs and homes rather than sign new leases they say could double their rents.

Half the publicans in Dover being offered these contracts and two-thirds in Shepway are rebelling, say the local branches of the Licensed Victuallers' Association.

"It's like signing a suicide pact, and I won't do it," says Rick Abbott, who runs the Cricketers in River.

He added: "I have a wife and three children and we would lose our home, but we would be ruined if I signed."

Big breweries, with more than 2,000 pubs in the country, are selling pubs or offering 20-year-leases because the Monopolies and Mergers Commission is restricting how many they can have.

Alf Bentley, landlord at the Red Lion in Charlton Green, Dover (above), said: "This is as ill-conceived as the poll tax. What use is a 20-year lease to me when I am 60? The breweries are also driving out experienced landlords and replacing them with people who were probably bakers before."

Lost customers.

Leslie Carpenter, of Carpenter's in The Stade, Folkestone, said: "My own rent will only go up by a third but I couldn't even manage that. I am prepared to lose my pub rather than accept.

"It's hard enough to survive with the recession. We've just lost more customers through the Sealink redundancies."

The LVA says the increase would further damage pubs because landlords would have to put up their prices to try to survive. They say the cost of  pint is now pushing £2.

Only last week Barry Musk walked out of the pub where he had been a tennant for four years, the Red Cow on Foord Road, Folkestone. He now manages a free house, the Impoerial, in Black Bull Road.

He said: "Signing would have meant my rent going up from £12,000 a year to £20,000 which would have ruined me. I was lucky because I found another pub without that kind of expence.

All four pubs are owned by Whitbread. A spokesman said the company was willing to negotiate with landlords if they could not afford new rents.

"The LVA claims that rents will double but I dispute that. Our own survey sows that overall rents have increased by just 45%," he added.

Whitbread says the government legislation has put it and other brewers in a dilemma. The new Landlord and Tennant Act gives publicans security of tenure, yet monopolies commission says brewers must get rid of pubs.

 

From an Email sent on 6th February 2008.

My name is Paul Willis and I have been researching my family history and discovered that an ancestor of mine, James Willis, was the licensee of the Red Lion in Charlton Green in the late 19th/early 20th Centuries (he was my great grandfather's nephew). According to the 1901 Census he was the 'Licensed Victualler', and his parents - George and Mary - were also living there.

Paul Willis.

 

LICENSEE LIST

JONES Griffith 1791

JENKINS Thomas 1823-39+ Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1828-29Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840

WHITING Mary? see other Red Lion 1843

HORN Thomas 1858 Melville's 1858

BOWMAN G 1962 Post Office Directory 1862

MIDDLETON Mrs Elizabeth 1874-92 Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882

HARDIMAN William Walter Kingsford 1895

WILLIS James 1895-1916 dec'd Pikes 1895Kelley's Directory 1899Post Office Directory 1913 (More info click here)

DALTON Thomas Stephen 1916-28 end (Post Office Directory 1922DATLEN)Pikes 1924

YOUNG Frederick Charles 1928-30 end Post Office Directory 1930

DRENNAN William George 1930-48 Pikes 1932-33Post Office Directory 1938

HOOD Victor Reginald 1949 end

LATCHEM Leonard Redvers 1949-60 end Kelley's Directory 1950Kelley's Directory 1953Kelley's Directory 1956

LARKIN William 1964-6

TERRY Albert W. 1968-72 dec'd

TERRY Mrs Frances S. 1972-82 end

BENTLEY Alfred 1982-87

BENTLEY Alf 1992

TANSEY Madeleine 1993

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-9

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1862From the Post Office Directory 1862

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Pikes 1895From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895

Kelley's Directory 1899From the Kelley's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Pikes 1924From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Pikes 1932-33From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Kelley's Directory 1950From the Kelley's Directory 1950

Kelley's Directory 1953From the Kelley's Directory 1953

Kelley's Directory 1956From the Kelley's Directory 1956

 

If anyone should have any further information, or indeed any pictures or photographs of the above licensed premises, please email:-

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